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Pissing off the true street class because its the rules that are the problem is not what a productive discussion is really aimed for.
The forum was started to put some ideas forward in the interest of True street.
I can also tell you that I have no where near 600 cubes in the HX. Happy for any ANDRA official to do a capacity test on my car any time. Its 15 years of R&D that makes power with great sponsors and engine builders . Not a big fat Check Book.
But back to the discussion at Hand. My thoughts on bringing consistency within true street after listening to the feedback so far would be.
1. Keep the weight breaks as they are.
2. Single carbies only and cast aluminium intakes only.
3.Running exhaust and mufflers till at least the diff.
4. The ruling body to scrutinise cars for matching rego numbers, engine numbers etc on race day.
5. Maximum height of bonnet scoops at its highest point to be 6 inches. Any engine components limited to 6 inches above bonnet height if running with no scoop.
6. No Transbrakes.
Wow !!! Some very strong pent up frustration.
Although , I do agree with Tubs, Chassis connectors etc etc. Oh hang on there is a class for this its called Modified street!!!!!.
A car that twists its chassis?? How is that true street and how does such an unsafe car pass engineers and rego.??
The reason for the class suffering in numbers is not that the rules need to be opened up but they have been neglected for the past few seasons.
I remember when Stu Henry ran an 8.80 in his capri, when everyone was running 9.50 ‘s in the class and common sense prevailed and he stepped up a class.
It is mentioned ,that heaps of people would run the class because the rules are too restrictive however , how about all the people that would run the class if we stuck to the spirit of true street. The class used to be competitive and everyone had street /strip engines. A lot of these guys have been put off with what has been happening.
As for myself I have had the same engine in my car for the past 15 years. I have run real street , true street etc over many many years. The car an 10.90’s and over many many years the car has now dipped into the nines. I don’t even use a transbrake. I even run unleaded….
Some of these comments for rule changes are bordering on the ridiculous.
How many cars in the field actually have engines that are registered to that car.? How many cars actually have matching rego papers and engine numbers. This used to be the spirit of true street. When did a twin carbi sheet metal intake engine ever pass a rego inspection on a pollution controlled vehicle. SERIOUSLY>>>>.
Its like me borrowing a 1300hp BBC popping it in my HX and calling my car true street running low 8’s. Is that the right thing to do ? I think not !!
If you want the class to be big in numbers like it was 2-3 years ago have a look at what has changed. Its not the attractiveness of the class but the marginal definition of what is a true street car that is limiting the entrants that are participating.
This was a budget class for hot street cars with a great set of rules that were checked and enforced. When George Haddad and Barney used to inspected the APSA true street cars years ago I doubt many of todays interpretations of true street cars would be allowed to run the class.
Anyway ,see you all in Sydney.
My thoughts for True Street for next season.
To maintain the spirit and closeness of the class.
1. single carby only
2. no sheet metal intakes only cast aluminium
3. no caltracs.
4.Min weights small blocks 3300lb, big blocks 3500lb . Cars with factory blocked engines no min weight. eg. 308-383 stroker, 351-427 stroker etc….
Leave everything else as is.
Just a discussion.
I agree it would be great to get some discussion happening on rules.
It gives us a start on next years season and to see whether its worth putting the time and effort to get a car set up for next season.
Totally agree That cars need to be checked a bit more thoroughly.
Things from raised cam big blocks which are a no go in most classes.
And rego and matching engine numbers for True street Classes.
I think you are right, and the playing field should be level for everyone and any misunderstandings on rule interpretations should be cleared up quickly and fairly.
Thanks for the response, much appreciated.
Keep us updated as things progress out at Calder.
Even if it is a pencilled in date it would be great to have some idea.
Even if there are no meets planned for Calder in 2015 that would be great to know as well.
Common sense should prevail,
True street cars should have the engine in the car that can reasonably be considered to run on the street. Pretty sure engines revving to 10 000+ rpm to get down the track are not in the spirit of the class. Does anyone even check if these engines have engine numbers that belong to that car ?
As noz350 said I don’t know what the answer is but hopefully something simple can be done to balance the class without upsetting anyone. Things such as min weight review , not allowing caltracks or limiting intakes and heads to factory style specifications. Just some Ideas, not trying to upset anyone and well done to those in the 8’s and getting there within the rules.
I am just about to start setting up my car to go racing again and I am not sure what SENSIBLE direction to take. The class has gone from 9.50’s to 8.50’s in
under 24 months which is starting to push the boundaries of the class. Thanks for the reply.
Just a YES or a NO will do.
Don’t need a lengthy answer 😀
Would be great if this could be clarified ASAP.
I am just about to finish a new bonnet and scoop.
IS IT 6 inches on the mouth opening only . Or can the scoop rise to 8 or 9 inches past the opening.
Nick , True Street HX.November 29, 2012 at 9:47 am in reply to: Thankyou to Our Mechanics,Car buildersFabricators & Crew.. #11713
Well Done to the APSA. What a fantastic event it was and well done to WSID for running the event in such a professional manner.
Great to see all the cars out there and I cant wait to see what 2013 brings .
For Myself, I have to thank Tony at Top Gun Race engines for building such a consistent engine that we have campained over the past few years. Went to 3 APSA meets this year and made it into 2 finals. What more can anyone ask for.
Well done to Janelle for taking out the series once again. And well done to Peter Haravitsidis in his XY GT for taking out the True Street final on Saturday . Once again a slower more consistent car taking out the quicker car.
Cant wait for 2013,
I run one as well.
Car sounded awesome. Get it to an APSA event on a properly prepped track
and make the 7.61 official.
I have to agree with Bln 355.